breakcore has become predictable and boring..discuss!

[TechDiff Profile]

Heh, Figured I'd chuck in my ten pence for what its worth..

Hear this kinda thing quite a lot, breakcore is boring and predicatable.. hmm could be..

I think there's in heaps and heaps of new, interesting, and inventive things happening, but just not within the incredibly narrow field of breakcore. Electronic music as a whole is constantly evolving and far from predicatable.

I guess my point is that its similar to using a google search, the more words you type into the box, the fewer the results you get. So if you'd started a search with new Experimental music, you'd land shit loads of hits, adding the word breakcore, punk, 240bpm, whatever would just narrow the field and make hits fewer and further between. So perhaps you need to define what it is that you like about breakcore, and maybe find that aesthetic elswhere as well.

For me, it always has and always will be about the artist.. not the style. The people whos music I get excited by could probably make something in any style, and I'd still love it, because it has their sound. Good example would be Aphex twin, can make hardcore, idm, ambient, whatever, but its all lush because he's a fkn superb producer. There are a whole bunch of people who cross genres all over the place, but still making music that I love, and i think it's far more logical.

If you think about it, if music is supposed to be a reflection of emotions, feelings, and all that, I find it impossible to believe that anyone is feeling "breakcore" all the time. Im sure that even the most hardened speedcore producer feels slow and sad some days.

But the trouble comes when people feel shoe horned into fitting a particular definition of themselves. "I am a breakcore producer, i must make teh breakcorz" when perhaps the more productive mindset would be "I am a musician" because instantly the options, and the flexibility multiplies indefinitely.

When Im in the mindset for it, I really enjoy making fast detailed music. And when Im not, I enjoy making something else that I am in the mood for.

I noticed it a while back, was prepping some tracks for a gig at a breakcore party and just wasnt feeling it, maybe the tracks werent so good, or maybe just my mood. So I just closed the project, opened something new and made the thing I did feel like making.

I guess the track had similar aesthetics as my other stuff, since its by the same person, but different speed, different mood, sounded far more relevant to my ears tho. Played it at the party anyways, and it went down really well, and really opened my eyes.

Since then, I've just been making whatever I feel like, and on occasion that does cross into the fast heavy stuff, or it might be something beatless at 60 bpm, but whatever really, Im enjoying it more than ever. Every track feels more personal, and more of an acheivment.

Anyways, wondered off on a massive tangent, sorry =D

But I guess what Im trying to get at is that there will always be great breakcore tracks appearing, a lot of the time from very unexpected places, but it's futile to search for individuality and originality within the parameters you impose through your definition of a style, individuality comes from individuals.

[Stazma Profile]

Heh, Figured I'd chuck in my ten pence for what its worth..

Hear this kinda thing quite a lot, breakcore is boring and predicatable.. hmm could be..

I think there's in heaps and heaps of new, interesting, and inventive things happening, but just not within the incredibly narrow field of breakcore. Electronic music as a whole is constantly evolving and far from predicatable.

I guess my point is that its similar to using a google search, the more words you type into the box, the fewer the results you get. So if you'd started a search with new Experimental music, you'd land shit loads of hits, adding the word breakcore, punk, 240bpm, whatever would just narrow the field and make hits fewer and further between. So perhaps you need to define what it is that you like about breakcore, and maybe find that aesthetic elswhere as well.

For me, it always has and always will be about the artist.. not the style. The people whos music I get excited by could probably make something in any style, and I'd still love it, because it has their sound. Good example would be Aphex twin, can make hardcore, idm, ambient, whatever, but its all lush because he's a fkn superb producer. There are a whole bunch of people who cross genres all over the place, but still making music that I love, and i think it's far more logical.

If you think about it, if music is supposed to be a reflection of emotions, feelings, and all that, I find it impossible to believe that anyone is feeling "breakcore" all the time. Im sure that even the most hardened speedcore producer feels slow and sad some days.

But the trouble comes when people feel shoe horned into fitting a particular definition of themselves. "I am a breakcore producer, i must make teh breakcorz" when perhaps the more productive mindset would be "I am a musician" because instantly the options, and the flexibility multiplies indefinitely.

When Im in the mindset for it, I really enjoy making fast detailed music. And when Im not, I enjoy making something else that I am in the mood for.

I noticed it a while back, was prepping some tracks for a gig at a breakcore party and just wasnt feeling it, maybe the tracks werent so good, or maybe just my mood. So I just closed the project, opened something new and made the thing I did feel like making.

I guess the track had similar aesthetics as my other stuff, since its by the same person, but different speed, different mood, sounded far more relevant to my ears tho. Played it at the party anyways, and it went down really well, and really opened my eyes.

Since then, I've just been making whatever I feel like, and on occasion that does cross into the fast heavy stuff, or it might be something beatless at 60 bpm, but whatever really, Im enjoying it more than ever. Every track feels more personal, and more of an acheivment.

Anyways, wondered off on a massive tangent, sorry =D

But I guess what Im trying to get at is that there will always be great breakcore tracks appearing, a lot of the time from very unexpected places, but it's futile to search for individuality and originality within the parameters you impose through your definition of a style, individuality comes from individuals.

Completly agree !

[SweetPeaPod]

the trouble comes when people feel shoe horned into fitting a particular definition of themselves. "I am a breakcore producer, i must make teh breakcorz" when perhaps the more productive mindset would be "I am a musician" because instantly the options, and the flexibility multiplies indefinitely.

-One of the funnier parts...and true.
Everything you said before and after that was goddamned spot on.
I feel the exact same way. you couldn't've said it more betterers.
That's why i cringe sometimes at comments about how songs should've been.
i know that every part of whatever 'Simple' electronic song i work on is there for a reason..
Every part that someone thinks is a mistake, was either planned or accepted as part of a humanized song, and exactly what i needed to be apart of for that moment.
I never think to myself, "is this blipped-out enough?!" "IS this BCore ENuff?" "What will they say?"
That's crazy. Most people do get bored if the song doesn't change up fast enough to keep up with their A.D.D. At that moment, you aren't interested in 'HEARING' an artist's work.
You want Punk Robot Malfunction Core.
That could be a new genre that people could Poser their way through, tell people how much they suck at it, and play themselves out... Punk Robot Malfunction Core, let's do this.
*end rant, oh yeah, all of what that guy said too... don't forget

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When Im in the mindset for it, I really enjoy making fast detailed music. And when Im not, I enjoy making something else that I am in the mood for.

The absolute truth mate.

[Ridylan G Profile]

What? I love snares acid!

[DJ DL-44 Profile Website]

The solution is to punch everyone who asks what you play in the gut.

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