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Postby Zwaken » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:47 pm

This hot thread deserves a bump.
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Postby crashmee » Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:38 pm

I wouldnt call the scene "antifascist", but especially in Europe
the breakcore/freetekno scene has got a lot of listeners,
that are antifascists.
Alec Empire and Istari Lasterfahrer for example
have got a obviously antifascist Background,
even if they do not always shout out the most clear political statements.
So, lets push things forward,
make the term of Antifascism, of party, drugs and politics
and the battle against the nation known to the scene and your social enviroment
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Postby mutantswing.com » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:46 pm

"All communication is political"
Maybe, How do you say that in
e-prime? (http://nobeliefs.com/eprime.htm)
"All communication seems political to me"?

About music, personally i try to stick with the "in the eyes of the beholder" phrase regarding what "is" what.
But personally i think i enjoy music most that i concieve to be made from creative disorder. And very often "political" songs does not fall under that. But damn, i change my mind every day. Ive already changed it while writing this.

I take it all back. I love Anti fascist songs! (if they are good)

What happens when you find music thats amazingly great, but has a topic wich you absolutley not agree to? Can you digg?!


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Postby S2K08 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:29 pm

I've never made anything that was really in any way "serious" let alone politically infulenced.

The only way I could really imagine myself doing something like that, is if it was some kind of "soundtrack for the uprising;" of course there will be an uprising eventually, but I'm too unsure about what that would be like in reality, and certain that it won't happen in our lifetimes; to make any kind of decision or statement about it.
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Postby DISEMBOWELLED » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:15 pm

Zwaken wrote:Having music about politics is like making a video game about the stock market, imo... It just doesn't work for me.


wait wait, you mean you've never played "call of duty: modern wall street"???

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Postby Cameron » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:39 pm

If I may throw my thoughts into this, I think having any sort of political or any agenda in music is idiotic and undermines the value of the music. Some exceptions may be made if the agenda is not meant to be taken seriously and it only there to fit with the music. Breakcore, speedcore, and other such types of music, though I know little about them, tend to have an angry sound, thus a fascist theme to it is fitting. So long as it's not trying to actually indoctrinate me into their political belief I could care less.

But, good luck on your anti-fascism agenda inspired music, as we all know intolerance to intolerance is much more tolerant that intolerance to anything else.

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Postby djtheblade » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:45 am

You can oppose fascism without being a fascist yourself. There's this belief that anti-fascism constitutes beating up right-wingers, shutting them down and removing their right to free speech.
Hows about you just go leafleting at election time warning people of the dangers of right wing groups, then all you've done is help provide folk with equal access to balanced information, which is the eptiome of democracy but still anti-fascist.

Nothing undermines the value of your music assuming these are the values that you want instilled in it, trying to moderate and remove elements (whether to appease your own guilt or for the benefit of others) is the real way to undermine artistic integrity.

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