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Postby djtheblade » Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:32 pm

I think it's terrifying that a possible president is older than the world

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Postby slagnogler » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:55 am

Socialism is for pussies.

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Postby Babylon Disco » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:46 am

No, but socialism is pro-pussy.

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Postby slagnogler » Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:37 am

True, socialism is pro pussy. The Nazis were socialist and they were pussies, a different kind of pussy than we have here in the states mind you. I think the U.S. brand of socialism is geared at attracting pussies and making pussies when ever possible.


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Postby Babylon Disco » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:22 pm

There are so many things wrong with your thesis that I don't know where to begin.

Socialism being a materialistic ideology with the goal of dissolving the class-system and national borders, and nazism being an idealistic ideology with the goal of enforcing national borders and the class-system.

I mean, just the fact that the first people that NSDAP jailed were commies and union-activist should ring a bell, yeah? Fuck, you're the most ignorant person on this board. And that means alot.

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Postby djtheblade » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:01 pm

slagnogler wrote:True, socialism is pro pussy. The Nazis were socialist and they were pussies, a different kind of pussy than we have here in the states mind you. I think the U.S. brand of socialism is geared at attracting pussies and making pussies when ever possible.


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Socialism in the US is geared towards transforming the American political system in to a true mixed economy like every other fucking civillised and developed western country, and dropping the backwards privatisation that yanks are still duped in to believing actually serves them.

To highlight this I refer to the endless Republican rhetorical reference to socialised medicine and families having the right to "chose their own doctor". Fortunately here in the UK all our doctors are trained to good standards, so we don't have to worry about which doctor we see because we know they're out to help us, rather than to sexually assault our wallets. National health services are the hallmark of any decent society, whether you're country is run by right wingers or left wingers, which is why virtually every western society encorporates one, bar America.

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Postby slagnogler » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:04 pm

Ohhh my feelings..... :shock: anyway,National Socialist are what the Nazis were correct.They implemented Italian Fascist ideology as well because Hitler was in love with Mussolini but Mussolini thought hitler was gay. I did not say all socialism was the same I mearly stated it was for pussies and pussies are socialist WORLD WIDE. No matter what brand of socialism you subscribe to it's main goal is control through taxation on a massive scale. The social programs work for a while but what happens is people have less and less children over a period of time. When the population does not replenish itself there is no one to tax. So taxes go up faster than inflation, immigration laws are softened, and life becomes miserable.

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Postby djtheblade » Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:42 pm

slagnogler wrote:Ohhh my feelings..... :shock: anyway,National Socialist are what the Nazis were correct.They implemented Italian Fascist ideology as well because Hitler was in love with Mussolini but Mussolini thought hitler was gay. I did not say all socialism was the same I mearly stated it was for pussies and pussies are socialist WORLD WIDE. No matter what brand of socialism you subscribe to it's main goal is control through taxation on a massive scale. The social programs work for a while but what happens is people have less and less children over a period of time. When the population does not replenish itself there is no one to tax. So taxes go up faster than inflation, immigration laws are softened, and life becomes miserable.


National socialists were nationalists. They applied some socialistic policies to the modified German population (That is, those who weren't Jewish, Gyspy, Slavic etc). To actually argue that The German Nazi party is representative and indicative of Socialism in general is the curse of the capitalists. It is by far, the most absurd analogy that anyone could ever put forward.
Your control through taxation theory is hollow and without substance, it is superficial center right dogma. It's also utter garbage. If you actually read Marxist literature (Much of which is difficult I admit), you'll see that the ideological goal of Socialism has little to do with tax, in fact, detailed economics is one of things that is severely lacking in classic marxist literature.

Please could you explain how social programs (Presumably you mean healthcare, welfare, public transport etc) contributes to smaller families and decreasing population sizes. Please explain how life becomes miserable.

If we look at those countries that enjoy the highest quality of living standards, and who enjoy the happiest lives in general, you see that they all correlate perfectly with the most Liberal and Libertarian governments. Time and time again it is the same countries that top the list for quality of life: Switzerland, the Scandinavian communities (Denmark, Swede, Norway and Finland etc), Canada, Iceland. Nearly all of which enjoy thorough and intimate public health systems, not to mention a vast array of other publicly funded services. In fact, the US ranks middle to low on so many tables it is unbelievable. In general, Americans are fat, unhealthy, unhappy and poorly educated. Before anyone jumps to condemn me I'm not hating America here, my life has been influenced by American art and music by immeasurable standards. My point is simply that Slagnogler's much loved Center right capitalist utopia is heavily flawed, and when we look at important measures such as quality of life, is absolutely swamped by economically weaker liberal and socialist nations.

Read and learn:

http://www.mercer.com/referencecontent. ... nt=1128060

Look how high up San Fransisco is, the city of socialists, fags and ethnics.

http://across.co.nz/qualityofliving.htm

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10 ... dex_01.htm

PS I'm aware that the UK ranks low as well, I could write a book on what I think is wrong with my own country.

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Postby Babylon Disco » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:51 pm

slagnogler wrote:Ohhh my feelings..... :shock: anyway,National Socialist are what the Nazis were correct.They implemented Italian Fascist ideology as well because Hitler was in love with Mussolini but Mussolini thought hitler was gay. I did not say all socialism was the same I mearly stated it was for pussies and pussies are socialist WORLD WIDE. No matter what brand of socialism you subscribe to it's main goal is control through taxation on a massive scale. The social programs work for a while but what happens is people have less and less children over a period of time. When the population does not replenish itself there is no one to tax. So taxes go up faster than inflation, immigration laws are softened, and life becomes miserable.


So, your only reason for thinking that the NSDAP was socialist was that they used the term 'socialism' in their party name? Good work. Therefore; democratic fascism would be possible if I named my party "The Fascist Democrats"? Your argument is flawed.
Furthermore, Hitler lowered taxes and secured private ownership for ethnic german capitalists. Socialism was merely a fasade to please the working class, and the last remnant of the NSDAP:s socialist parts died with the SA. (Not to say that Röhm or the SA as a whole were socialists, nor sane, but there were certain individuals that had an idea of a 'second revolution'. Röhm and Strasser, for example).

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