Alec Empire Talks To NTR About Origins Of Breakcore!

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Postby Skornsteen » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:43 pm

No offense.. but people call Snares a dick, this guy tops it.
I don't see why the fuck 'breakcore' should not use modern technology..
Oh no wait.. Breakcore musicians should buy vintage equipment and spend 10000000's on it while for.. lets say.. 500 and a nice laptop, you can do the exact same thing.
The political statement here is that only people with lots of cash may make 'real breakcore'
If you want analog distortion buy a fucking analog delay and run your master mix trough there.
If you want people to experiment and do new things in a genre they should not be limited to only using vintage hardware and 'analogue desks'
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Postby divtech » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:11 pm

his point wasnt that no one should do that, he just doesnt consider it the "breakcore" that he claimed to invent

as long as bcore holds different definitions this whole back and forth hostility is null and void

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Postby djtheblade » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:56 pm

divtech wrote:his point wasnt that no one should do that, he just doesnt consider it the "breakcore" that he claimed to invent

as long as bcore holds different definitions this whole back and forth hostility is null and void


Precisely, he practically acknowledged that multiple people were using the term, from producers to distributors, i'm sure many of them would have approved of using newer technology. Fuck the idealism of it all though, let's just focus on getting boners.

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Postby vank » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:16 am

djtheblade wrote:
divtech wrote:his point wasnt that no one should do that, he just doesnt consider it the "breakcore" that he claimed to invent

as long as bcore holds different definitions this whole back and forth hostility is null and void


Precisely, he practically acknowledged that multiple people were using the term, from producers to distributors, i'm sure many of them would have approved of using newer technology. Fuck the idealism of it all though, let's just focus on getting boners.


boner, check.

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Postby producer_snafu » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:14 am

vank wrote:
djtheblade wrote:
divtech wrote:his point wasnt that no one should do that, he just doesnt consider it the "breakcore" that he claimed to invent

as long as bcore holds different definitions this whole back and forth hostility is null and void


Precisely, he practically acknowledged that multiple people were using the term, from producers to distributors, i'm sure many of them would have approved of using newer technology. Fuck the idealism of it all though, let's just focus on getting boners.


boner, check.



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Postby Skornsteen » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:06 pm

Ok, to be a true breakcore guy, I bought myself a drum computer, and a korg piano module, and I recorded it trough a ANALOGUE desk to my computer, ofcourse adding so much gain it whould clip as shit, I know understand what making breakcore is about.
I will upload it somewhere next week so you can hear how awesome those techniques are compared to all your laptop garbage!

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Postby cuttingagent » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:00 am

i run my fruityloops on a particle board desk... it was only 50 bucks at bi-mart, but they asked me to turn in my "boykott korporate konsumerism" card at the front counter. decided to buy sum new boxers while i was at it =)
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Postby kid hideus » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:07 am

i think he has a point in a way

i never thought of what alec empire was doing as breakcore anyway, it's just labels but i associate breakcore with the later stuff like shitmat/sickboy etc and a very laptop/mp3 based scene partly spawned by how easy it was to get mp3 tunes and destroy them/mash them up etc
but 'if you say so dad' :D

respect to alec empire but he can keep the name breakcore anyway, most people aren't lucky/smart/whatever enough to be in the right place at the right time where something like breakcore happens, i've had some amazing nights in clubs and bars dancing to breakcore through good and not so good systems.

alec empire would probably turn his nose up at it, but it's all in the eye of the beholder innit

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Postby krafty_pk » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:45 pm

i read up untill he talked about politics and nazis........

hes such a dull cunt, i couldnt give a shit about ATR or alec tbh and especially relating breakcore to politics and blah blah blah.

breakcore its noisy fast jungle hardcore fusion, nothing more to it.

choppy amen, nasty reeces, harsh pads and hilarious samples, who cares where it came from

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Postby producer_snafu » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:13 pm

heha, politics is within the roots of breakcore, before there was ihatebreakcore there was a lil website called http://widerstand.org/


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Postby djtheblade » Sun Jan 24, 2010 6:53 pm

Widerstand, c8, DHR, Praxis, Mokum...............All pretty much had marxist/situationist tendancies, or at the very least had a punk rock foundation.

PS I heard a Snafu song the other day that used an Amen Break!
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Postby Lee The Agent » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:42 am

AE: The DHR scene died with Carl Crack in 2001. After that nothing was the same anymore. We focus on releasing back catalogue since then.


Funny, ATR posted a new tweet on twitter saying they have new tracks. It's kind of saddening.

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Postby Babylon Disco » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:57 pm

krafty_pk wrote:i read up untill he talked about politics and nazis........

hes such a dull cunt, i couldnt give a shit about ATR or alec tbh and especially relating breakcore to politics and blah blah blah.

breakcore its noisy fast jungle hardcore fusion, nothing more to it.

choppy amen, nasty reeces, harsh pads and hilarious samples, who cares where it came from


You are the reason breakcore sucks, you fucking twat.

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Postby Feutus Lapdance » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:32 pm

krafty_pk wrote:i read up untill he talked about politics and nazis........

hes such a dull cunt, i couldnt give a shit about ATR or alec tbh and especially relating breakcore to politics and blah blah blah.

breakcore its noisy fast jungle hardcore fusion, nothing more to it.

choppy amen, nasty reeces, harsh pads and hilarious samples, who cares where it came from


Using samples and not paying for it.... thats also politicks.
Did jou not know this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5cUTmuWjY

And the orgin of the Amen Breakbeat and its Sampling (remixt by Epsilon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SaFTm2bcac

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Postby producer_snafu » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:17 pm

djtheblade wrote:Widerstand, c8, DHR, Praxis, Mokum...............All pretty much had marxist/situationist tendancies, or at the very least had a punk rock foundation.

PS I heard a Snafu song the other day that used an Amen Break!
zomg.


i only have used it when i remix other peoples music.
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