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Recommendations for a beginner

Postby NoBusinessLike » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:29 am

Hey all :D

I'm new to breakcore (I have more of a background in extreme metal). So far, I have heard the work of Enduser, Shitmat, and Venetian Snares (listening to their song Hajnal right now) - all of it has been amazing, great stuff.

I'll definitely be looking much further into breakcore. To get a sort of bearing, I thought I'd post a topic asking for some recommendations from you. What breakcore artists would you recommend to a beginner? Also, what albums would you say are essential (though not necessarily viewed as accessible for a beginner)? I'm eager to listen to as much of this as I can (the faster it is, and more fucked up it is, the better), so any input from you would be appreciated.

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Postby xTxRxAxVxIxSx » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:40 am

Well, first of all, most breakcore artists are solo acts. So, when you said that you were "listening to their song Hajnal" in reference to Venetian Snares - yeah, that's only one guy.

Anyway....

You picked a good few artists to start off on for sure. Coming from a metal background, you should love Drumcorps. Also, Bong Ra was one of the first I heard. Get some of his stuff too. :)

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Postby NoBusinessLike » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:23 am

xTxRxAxVxIxSx wrote:Well, first of all, most breakcore artists are solo acts. So, when you said that you were "listening to their song Hajnal" in reference to Venetian Snares - yeah, that's only one guy.


Oh, I was using "their" in a gender neutral way, as I wasn't sure what gender the person behind Venetian Snares is. I know now, anyway. 8)

You picked a good few artists to start off on for sure. Coming from a metal background, you should love Drumcorps.


I'm listening to Drumcorps right now and some of this does seem pretty good. Definitely worth looking into - thanks for the recommendation.

Also, Bong Ra was one of the first I heard. Get some of his stuff too. :)


Oh yeah, Bong-Ra - also familiar with them (downloaded a Bong-Ra/Enduser/Shitmat split the other day). Pretty good. :)


Right now, I'm listening to "Break Beathoven Got Heroin" by Trippmatic. Great stuff. Feels a bit unusual listening to an hour long track (being used to conventional, typically-under-10-minute tracks), but it's a good stuff. 8)

Thanks for the recommendations. Keep them coming :D

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Postby shift decimal » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:18 am

Check out Manifestevil.

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Postby xTxRxAxVxIxSx » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:24 pm

Oh, and on the topic of Bong-Ra now... If you haven't already, get Stereohype Heroin Hooker. It's four tracks by him, and then two remixed versions of each of the four by various other producers. Great way to get an idea of some of their styles.

What I've heard of Abelcain is badass too. Be sure to check out "The Garden".

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Postby producer_snafu » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:37 pm

xTxRxAxVxIxSx wrote:Oh, and on the topic of Bong-Ra now... If you haven't already, get Stereohype Heroin Hooker. It's four tracks by him, and then two remixed versions of each of the four by various other producers. Great way to get an idea of some of their styles.


i of course being ace of breaks on that release =D
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Postby kvkvg » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:41 pm

maybe try some compilations?

my personal favorite is "pain free sound institue" from drop name records, that has some classics on it.



and get some fucking ladyscraper - the death of mary poppings is free and probally the best record of last year.

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Postby NoBusinessLike » Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:00 am

Thanks for the excellent recommendations everyone. 8) They'll surely keep me busy for a while.

xTxRxAxVxIxSx - Drumcorps was a great recommendation - downloaded their Grist album and it's good stuff indeed.

shift decimal - checked out the Manifestevil page. Wasn't really too enthusiastic about what I heard (for some reason I could only listen to "thSweetSmellOf FearOnFreshMeat") - whatever quality the music itself had was, I think, ruined by the abundance of cheesy horror samples, rendering the music laughable but not particularly enjoyable.

kvkvg, great idea - I'll download Pain Free Sound Institute as soon as I get a chance. Also, would anyone be so kind as to provide me with a direct link to the Ladyscraper download (the Death of Mary Poppins EP)? It's available here http://www.cockrockdisco.com/CRD2/album ... 3-003.html - I can't get to it, though, because my university is blocking the site for some reason.

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Postby xTxRxAxVxIxSx » Tue Aug 26, 2008 4:50 am

NoBusinessLike wrote:http://www.cockrockdisco.com/CRD2/albumpages/Crockp3-003.html - I can't get to it, though, because my university is blocking the site for some reason.


Lol, most likely the word 'cock' in the url. :D

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Postby Benn Virus » Tue Aug 26, 2008 5:28 am

NoBusinessLike wrote:whatever quality the music itself had was, I think, ruined by the abundance of cheesy horror samples, rendering the music laughable but not particularly enjoyable


welcome to the world of breakcore.


there are also those who don't care about anything, and make the worst, fucked up tracks ever. like: "fuck music, fuck production, fuck everything!"

then there are those, who use common rhythms like amen break a lot, and make their tracks sound traditional, like Bong-Ra, Enduser

then there are those who really started to create their own sound. "it doesn't matter what samples you use, it has to sound weird at the end".

the ones who are influenced by Metal, like Drumcorps

the ones who are influenced by early rave, like Duran Duran Duran.

those who were influenced by Hardcore/Gabber


that were just a few examples. there's no way breakcore can be described perfectly. it's just a hybrid.

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Postby NoBusinessLike » Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:49 am

xTxRxAxVxIxSx wrote:
NoBusinessLike wrote:http://www.cockrockdisco.com/CRD2/albumpages/Crockp3-003.html - I can't get to it, though, because my university is blocking the site for some reason.


Lol, most likely the word 'cock' in the url. :D


:lol: That was my theory, but I was able to access sites like http://www.cockfights247.com, http://www.nomorecockroaches.com, and http://www.cockerspaniels.com ... so it must be something else. :)

Benn Virus wrote:welcome to the world of breakcore.


there are also those who don't care about anything, and make the worst, fucked up tracks ever. like: "fuck music, fuck production, fuck everything!"

then there are those, who use common rhythms like amen break a lot, and make their tracks sound traditional, like Bong-Ra, Enduser

then there are those who really started to create their own sound. "it doesn't matter what samples you use, it has to sound weird at the end".

the ones who are influenced by Metal, like Drumcorps

the ones who are influenced by early rave, like Duran Duran Duran.

those who were influenced by Hardcore/Gabber


that were just a few examples. there's no way breakcore can be described perfectly. it's just a hybrid.


Thanks for the welcome, man. 8) Very interesting genre of music.

PS. Had no idea what the "amen break" was, but looked it up and found this fascinating 18 minute Youtube video about the history of the amen break. Thought I'd share the link for anyone who hasn't seen it (though I expect that most people here will have seen it anyway)

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Postby Your Impact » Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:16 am

you'll hear the amen break alot from now ;)

also it is definelity not all about the big artists, these big artists, arent even as big as you think ;) try to look at more of the independent artists aswell, on this forum, on myspace, personally i love wheyheyhey!! The Fez! is great stuff aswell, :) although not just breakcore,

also try out some other stuff since you like the fucked up hard breakcore! try some gabba, and tekno

heres some artists that i like aswell, try some out?

squarepusher
beatwife
eraserhead
androgyn network
chevron

lactation sandwich is the shit aswell :) check him out on myspace,

and maybe you could give my stuff a try ?

http://www.myspace.com/scatdose

hope this helps you abit!

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Postby Havok » Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:58 am

producer_snafu wrote:i of course being ace of breaks on that release =D


how come you used that name?

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Postby FlidVicious » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:04 am

NoBusinessLike wrote:
Oh yeah, Bong-Ra - also familiar with them (downloaded a Bong-Ra/Enduser/Shitmat split the other day). Pretty good. :)



im guessing thats the "monsters of mashup" release...i really wanna hear that could you tell me where you dl'ed it?

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