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Postby Lycan » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:45 pm

hue-e wrote:20 Hz and below - impossible to detect, remove as it only adds unnecessary energy to the total sound, thereby most probably holding down the overall volume of the track

yea? I'd say cut everything at 40. give yr self a little more headroom.

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Postby hue-e » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:38 am

actually I usually do about 30-35... that info was posted by someone else on another board, I just copied/pasted it, it's pretty helpful.
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Postby HORSE FORCE » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:12 am

hue-e wrote:Here's some helpful EQing info that a friend of mine posted on another forum. It's helped me out quite a bit...

20 Hz and below - impossible to detect, remove as it only adds unnecessary energy to the total sound, thereby most probably holding down the overall volume of the track
60 Hz and below - sub bass (feel only)
80(-100) Hz - feel AND hear bass
100-120 Hz - the "club sound system punch" resides here
200 Hz and below - bottom
250 Hz - notch filter here can add thump to a kick drum
150-400 Hz - boxiness
200 Hz-1.5 KHz - punch, fatness, impact
800 Hz-4 KHz - edge, clarity, harshness, defines timbre
4500 Hz - extremly tiring to the ears, add a slight notch here
5-7 KHz - de-essing is done here
4-9 KHz - brightness, presence, definition, sibilance, high frequency distortion
6-15 KHz - air and presence
9-15 KHz - adding will give sparkle, shimmer, bring out details - cutting will smooth out harshness and darken the mix


its all pretty true except you can definitely hear down below 60. id say you stop hearing it around 30ish

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Postby trinkets » Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:51 pm

whats de-essing? happens at 5-7 kHz

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Postby Traitor » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:43 am

I've always had the same problems too, good advice here nice one

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Postby etruscan » Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:27 pm

trinkets wrote:whats de-essing? happens at 5-7 kHz


It's removing sibilants such as an 'esssss' sound (hence the name), which can get excessively harsh and loud, from (for example) vocal samples.

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Postby cornishacid » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:46 pm

doesnt sound like you need much help at all judging by your second track but then i dont really know much about much yet.

actually this thread has been really helpful as ive been reaching a bit of a ad end recently.

but yeah, keep em coming.

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Postby chaz » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:07 am

try layering your VSTs, its kinda like you have a million different instruments in there but there flopped around all over the place. Your melodies seem all over the place too, when you first start writing try to stay in the same key. Have more bass lines, too instead of just random notes, maybe bring back the same line a few times to give the listener something to grab on to and anchor the piece down. Also I like having like 3 basses stacked on each other, it gives it a nice full effect.

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Postby djtheblade » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:46 am

The samples themselves are fine, by the sounds of it you've used one break consistently per track. For example, Sherwood's thingy relies heavily on the Amen break. If you could take even two or three more breaks and mash them in to the mix then it would start to sound a bit busier perhaps. Don't have the breaks one after another though, try and place different hits from the different breaks in close succession.

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