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Postby cuttingagent » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:53 am

Thallium wrote:
matt bleak wrote:sorry EVERYTHING that uses an amen sounds lame in comparison to "Straight Outta Compton"!!!


I dunno... this is a VERY close second.

It includes all elements of breakcore - the amen break, jungle vocals, sampling, and STILL sounds fresh even though it was recorded in 1992 (when Alec & co were just starting out). This track, imo, is perfection*.






*until fucking KORN came along and remixed it! *shakes fist*


it wasn't a remix, they covered it. and i like it cause chino moreno sangs on that shit and i love me some old school chino.

i much like a:pod's cover of straight outta compton as well
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Postby breakcoreyfeldman » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:18 pm

Snares is an institution of the genre itself.

The man pioneered what most still strive to emulate to this day.

If Alec Empire was ever relevant to BREAKCORE he wouldn't be the poor man's Trent Reznor he is now.

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Postby nsound » Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:10 pm

breakcore was invented by computer science majors at cardiff polytechnic - i thought was still in alpha testing but seems like someone leaked it early

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Postby kvkvg » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:56 pm

cuttingagent wrote:
Thallium wrote:
matt bleak wrote:sorry EVERYTHING that uses an amen sounds lame in comparison to "Straight Outta Compton"!!!


I dunno... this is a VERY close second.

It includes all elements of breakcore - the amen break, jungle vocals, sampling, and STILL sounds fresh even though it was recorded in 1992 (when Alec & co were just starting out). This track, imo, is perfection*.






*until fucking KORN came along and remixed it! *shakes fist*


it wasn't a remix, they covered it. and i like it cause chino moreno sangs on that shit and i love me some old school chino.

i much like a:pod's cover of straight outta compton as well


'are we there yet' is a very core film.

in short: god invented breakcore. somewhere between inventing
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Postby djtheblade » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:45 pm

breakcoreyfeldman wrote:Snares is an institution of the genre itself.

The man pioneered what most still strive to emulate to this day.

If Alec Empire was ever relevant to BREAKCORE he wouldn't be the poor man's Trent Reznor he is now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74XranJcH6s


Ha, everyone always loves to compare Alec and Reznor, presumably because they both fiddle with electronics and have black hair. In reality, they have relatively little in common, aside from the fact that Reznor has cited Empire as a serious influence on more than one occasion.

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Postby producer_snafu » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:07 pm

djtheblade wrote:Ha, everyone always loves to compare Alec and Reznor, presumably because they both fiddle with electronics and have black hair.


for some of you that don't know trent reznor is a ginger head
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Postby djtheblade » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:49 pm

The crafty sausage has truly mastered the jet black hair dye then. I think Empire might actually be blonde, he's changes his hair colour 4 times a year at least.

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Postby pimperteen » Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:26 pm

hair colours? do you ladies read Heat magazine too? Let's get together and swap makeup tips.

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Postby djtheblade » Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:54 pm

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Postby SilicosiS » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:14 am

producer_snafu wrote:for some of you that don't know trent reznor is a ginger head


GTFO! Really?

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Postby Babylon Disco » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:14 am

djtheblade wrote:Ha, everyone always loves to compare Alec and Reznor, presumably because they both fiddle with electronics and have black hair. In reality, they have relatively little in common, aside from the fact that Reznor has cited Empire as a serious influence on more than one occasion.

And that they toured together.

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Postby Babylon Disco » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:15 am

producer_snafu wrote:
djtheblade wrote:Ha, everyone always loves to compare Alec and Reznor, presumably because they both fiddle with electronics and have black hair.


for some of you that don't know trent reznor is a ginger head


And Alec is blonde.

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Postby SilicosiS » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:24 am

Thallium wrote:there's only one thing to be learned from this debate:


ICE CUBE INVENTED BREAKCORE


Sorry if this discussion is getting boring, but....

I always thought one of the defining characteristics of breakcore was the hella fast tempos. Like it's not breakcore if it's less than 170bpm. If I'm wrong about this, that's fine, but I just thought it might be more accurate to say that breakcore is just a really, really fast version of Ice Cube, rather than claiming he is the inventor.

Of course there's the jamaican sounding vox in the chorus of wicked that, from memory, sound like they've been sped up or something but the drums are slow. And is that really the amen? Maybe it was just gated and the terrible, terrible quality of my speakers at home made it difficult to recognise, but it sounded different to me. Maybe da cube is just a masta of making the amen not boring. EDIT: Or whoever produced that track.

Anywho, back to work...

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Postby Thallium » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:51 am

SilicosiS wrote:I just thought it might be more accurate to say that breakcore is just a really, really fast version of Ice Cube, rather than claiming he is the inventor.


It was a joke.

Breakcore was "invented" in Australia, Germany and England by Bloody Fist, DHR and Ambush, respectively.

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Postby SilicosiS » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:06 am

Thallium wrote:
SilicosiS wrote:I just thought it might be more accurate to say that breakcore is just a really, really fast version of Ice Cube, rather than claiming he is the inventor.


It was a joke.

Breakcore was "invented" in Australia, Germany and England by Bloody Fist, DHR and Ambush, respectively.


Well that one went RIGHT over my head. Your justification of the statement sounded completely sincere, and you had a few good points. You should put a few smilies and lawlz in to make it clearer to those of us who need it. Unless I'm the only one that was too dense to get it, which is entirely possible.

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