Has there been a significant youth/music movement this decad
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Has there been a significant youth/music movement this decad
Has there been a significant youth/music movement this decade?
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't think of one. Of course there are lots of little things going on in the underground but nothing has hit the headlines.
In the nineties we had rave. In the eighties there was rap (e.g. Public Enemy!) and heavy metal. In the seventies there was punk. The sixties and fifties had loads of political stuff going on fueled by great music (think hippies, riots in Detroit etc.)
Is this the first decade since W.W.II with no music movement? Is the first decade of the new millennium a "sellout" decade? There has been loads of political stuff going on but it is not related to music. Nothing for the media to say "look at the kids today and their crazy music". But maybe that is it; we can still complain about kids today because they are all a bunch of sellouts!
Please correct me if I'm wrong but I can't think of one. Of course there are lots of little things going on in the underground but nothing has hit the headlines.
In the nineties we had rave. In the eighties there was rap (e.g. Public Enemy!) and heavy metal. In the seventies there was punk. The sixties and fifties had loads of political stuff going on fueled by great music (think hippies, riots in Detroit etc.)
Is this the first decade since W.W.II with no music movement? Is the first decade of the new millennium a "sellout" decade? There has been loads of political stuff going on but it is not related to music. Nothing for the media to say "look at the kids today and their crazy music". But maybe that is it; we can still complain about kids today because they are all a bunch of sellouts!
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the 90's also had grunge...
And I would say that emo today is pretty big. But I think the underground is/have becommed more overground. I think the reason for not seeing a one band kind of movement(if you get my drift) is the fact that there is so much going on in the underground, that a lot of people seek there, for their musical pleasures......
I'm a little hung over, so this may not make that much sense
And I would say that emo today is pretty big. But I think the underground is/have becommed more overground. I think the reason for not seeing a one band kind of movement(if you get my drift) is the fact that there is so much going on in the underground, that a lot of people seek there, for their musical pleasures......
I'm a little hung over, so this may not make that much sense
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What distinguishes this decade from all the others is the ability to exchange information/ideas instantly, across huge distances and en masse. Now, I'm not saying that the internet is a shit idea, but it's had a pretty profound effect on the way things work.
djtheblade wrote:Nu metal, Emo, Nu Rave, all sorts of garbage.
Surely Nu metal and Nu Rave are just watered down sellout versions of the originals? They don't make the news headlines either (correct me if I'm wrong) whereas rave and metal were feared by the establishment.
You might have a point with Emo though. Has this decade seen "the rise of the emo"?
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I doubt there wil be a Emo musical Revolution. But I think soon, the MTV days wil be over.
There wil be some kind of Joutube Torent Revolution, that wil hopfuly fuck the Musick Industry.
Soon....Very soon....
There wil be some kind of Joutube Torent Revolution, that wil hopfuly fuck the Musick Industry.
Soon....Very soon....
My thoughts as well... The Internet seems to have created a generation that's accustomed to requesting (and manipulating) cultural information rather than having it disseminated to them, as in the age of MTV. This will probably be remembered as the decade of the LOLcatweyheyhey !! wrote:What distinguishes this decade from all the others is the ability to exchange information/ideas instantly, across huge distances and en masse. Now, I'm not saying that the internet is a shit idea, but it's had a pretty profound effect on the way things work.
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I might just not be in the right places, but it seems like instead of one singular music force to be reckoned with, there are alot of sub-genres and small scenes, not creating the newsworthy-ness of a movement that threatens the mainstream.
also, anything that starts getting rrl popular soon gets picked up and basterdized by the mainstream alot quicker. see- emo, hardcore, screamo. If those had remained underground it coulda been the next thing, but now all the origional bands are banging out pop ballads.
not that I followed it in the first place.
god forbid.
also, anything that starts getting rrl popular soon gets picked up and basterdized by the mainstream alot quicker. see- emo, hardcore, screamo. If those had remained underground it coulda been the next thing, but now all the origional bands are banging out pop ballads.
not that I followed it in the first place.
god forbid.
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I don't think it's particularly important for some sub-genres to invade the public consciousness any more. The public have been dicked in to a perpetual state of lethargy by several decades of increasingly banal forms of entertainment (Especially the more recent reality TV craze). Sure a lot of these idiots still like to jump on the outrage bus and ride it all the way to piss central, but it helps if the offending person or movement has some kind of connections with Muslims, the banning of christmas decorations, the homeless or some other (perceived) manifestation of PC gone mad.
In conclusion, Breakcore is the least of people's worries despite how vulgar it sounds, unless like Eiterherd goes mad and starts mowing down children with a sub machine gun, or Venetian Snares converts to radical Islam and blows himself up on a school bus accompanied by spastic breaks.
The past decade or two has seen the rise and fall of garbge such as Nu Metal (Hijacked and incorporated straight away by the mainstream) and Emo (Hijacked after a slightly longer underground run and incorporated in to the mainstream), and certainly in the case of the latter there has been minor media stir at least in the UK as some desperate right wing wankers in the media tried to associate Emo with violence and suicidal tendancies. Of course, as we all know, Emo is far from dangerous, and if anything it has given an entire generation of kids something relatively harmless to get involved in (I say harmless, it is SHIT but it could be a lot worse).
It's going to take a lot for a new musical scene to emerge, remain completely true to its underground routes, offend or concern the public AND push a politised ethos. That is of course unless the BNP's Great White label makes it big and we all start listening to Celtic Folk music concerning the evils of immigration.
In conclusion, Breakcore is the least of people's worries despite how vulgar it sounds, unless like Eiterherd goes mad and starts mowing down children with a sub machine gun, or Venetian Snares converts to radical Islam and blows himself up on a school bus accompanied by spastic breaks.
The past decade or two has seen the rise and fall of garbge such as Nu Metal (Hijacked and incorporated straight away by the mainstream) and Emo (Hijacked after a slightly longer underground run and incorporated in to the mainstream), and certainly in the case of the latter there has been minor media stir at least in the UK as some desperate right wing wankers in the media tried to associate Emo with violence and suicidal tendancies. Of course, as we all know, Emo is far from dangerous, and if anything it has given an entire generation of kids something relatively harmless to get involved in (I say harmless, it is SHIT but it could be a lot worse).
It's going to take a lot for a new musical scene to emerge, remain completely true to its underground routes, offend or concern the public AND push a politised ethos. That is of course unless the BNP's Great White label makes it big and we all start listening to Celtic Folk music concerning the evils of immigration.
I belive, that actuall youth movements are- wigga with rnb and all this bullshit. Wear like gangsta, new york something cap for sure. Second is punky gay emo, that curently isn't gay. Oldskul nikes, wool hats, tube(not sure, if it's correct name) jeans. Probablly some bullcrap emo music. Thats all. Kinda bullshity
duh duh duh duh, duh duh duh duh
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i hate those kids with funky track shoes, tight pants, and girly hair.
they are all over the place.
or those wanna be dirty kids, who grow rattails, wear stained shirts, tight pants, goofy track shoes, and trucker hats, but they are really rich kids who think playing in a "noise band" screaming and rolling around on the floor for 5 minutes and driving out from boston to do so
they always have those fucking tight pants, and studded belts, and even though the pants are tight, they are sagging so much their asses hang out
the girls in the fucking rainboots with their tight pants tucked in, wearing flannel shirts and shit
all listening to fucking indie rock, emo, and nickleback
i dont fucking get it.
i still see those fucking juggalo kids around, and some of those white trash goth kids with those fucking bondage pants from hottopic, or fake dreadlocks, or those fucking strings and ribbons in their hair as fake "dreads"
i fucking hate people
trendy fucks.
they are all over the place.
or those wanna be dirty kids, who grow rattails, wear stained shirts, tight pants, goofy track shoes, and trucker hats, but they are really rich kids who think playing in a "noise band" screaming and rolling around on the floor for 5 minutes and driving out from boston to do so
they always have those fucking tight pants, and studded belts, and even though the pants are tight, they are sagging so much their asses hang out
the girls in the fucking rainboots with their tight pants tucked in, wearing flannel shirts and shit
all listening to fucking indie rock, emo, and nickleback
i dont fucking get it.
i still see those fucking juggalo kids around, and some of those white trash goth kids with those fucking bondage pants from hottopic, or fake dreadlocks, or those fucking strings and ribbons in their hair as fake "dreads"
i fucking hate people
trendy fucks.
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i dont think people want to admit it, but a lot of those other "movements" were made movements by media hype more than anything. i mean, nirvana was a good band, but the whole "grunge" thing was mostly just hype. in this day and age, young people could give less of a fuck what mtv or vh1 has to say about whats cool. today, if anything can be categorized as a "movement" its probably the stupid hipsters that get all their hip music from pitchfork.com. its less of a subgenre of music that receives hype and more of individual groups. a lot of the time, the less people know about an artist, the more hip it is to know about it.
this is good news for those of us who make strange music because now there is a group of people out there who get off to knowing about stuff no one else knows about.
this is good news for those of us who make strange music because now there is a group of people out there who get off to knowing about stuff no one else knows about.
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