wtf is an amen break?

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Postby PEPCORE » Wed May 14, 2008 4:40 pm

I ussually dont play with the white gold, my mother told me not to play with my nosefood.

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Postby weyheyhey !! » Wed May 14, 2008 5:10 pm

nsound wrote:royalties? so i can sleep on a bed of £50 notes surrounded by statues of me made out of white gold


Yo, I spoke with your lawyers; we can manage a bean-bag of Turkish Lira and statues of white chocolate... ?

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Postby CoReCoNTAx » Thu May 15, 2008 9:02 am

how can u not know what the fucking amen breaK is fucking rice pickin gypsy

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Postby nsound » Thu May 15, 2008 5:18 pm

weyheyhey !! wrote:
Yo, I spoke with your lawyers; we can manage a bean-bag of Turkish Lira and statues of white chocolate... ?


are you my manager? wondered where you'd got to, last time i saw you i told you to get the whores out of the hotel room and score me some coke - what happened with that - i'm fucking married to the bitches now...
and, damn - thats a big 10%

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Postby SwoonShine_ » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:56 pm

i just wikipedia it. thats what i do for fun now. look up cool stuff on wikipedia

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Postby gnom_maroder » Thu Aug 07, 2008 1:24 pm

Amen!

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Postby producer_snafu » Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:43 pm

most of you kids know i dislike the abuse of this very break, some people can get away with it because they are well composed drum editors and have great production skills like

Venetian Snares, [ ]pusher, Flashbulb, Techitch and Evol Intenet etc.. .

it took me a while to realize that the amen break is not only a sample but an element to music making like the 303 is to acid and 909 is to hardcore and the 808 is to hip hop.

but god fucking damn, all those synths are tools for sequencing.

imagine making a song with the same sample over and over and never doing anything innovative with it. . . . that's the amen break for you.

the snare sounds like a fucking block of wood being dropped.

i'm over people using the amen snare like a xylophone.

amen abuse to me is just lazy,


i hear a song with the amen break and i automatically dismiss it.

like for instance going to hear some ones myspace profile and they have the amen break in every track


most people don't know how to process this break or just use an already processed amen that was prolly sampled off a dylan track.

one tip if yer gonna go about processing the amen break . .. . . MONO!!!!

anyways, there are a shit ton of breaks out there.

for me processing them chopping them up and layering them is the best part about making a song, choosing yer own break out of a collection of thousands of breaks is the fun part.

i think the amen is a crutch.


the only excuse that i ever have for using the amen break now days is to do a remix for some one

das ma story and i'm sticking to it.
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Postby gnom_maroder » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:29 pm

I think, all depends on how you will use it

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Postby pimperteen » Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:25 pm

producer_snafu wrote:most of you kids know i dislike the abuse of this very break, some people can get away with it because they are well composed drum editors and have great production skills


thanks dad.

I haven't found a break with the versatility and energy of the amen. The snare sound is proper nice, it has such a warm tone which makes it pitchable. I use it a lot. It's also very consistently performed and recorded so it sounds fine when using slices together from different parts of the break.

It is overused though. I wish a lot of people would do more with it than just loop it and play it back from offsets etc. *yawn*.

Though I will say this: there's only one thing worse than an amen evangelist; an anti-amen evangelist.

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Postby Havok » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:13 pm

pimperteen wrote:there's only one thing worse than an amen evangelist; an anti-amen evangelist.


too true!!

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Postby DIGIT216 » Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:37 pm

Maladroit has a great tune that samples the narration from that 20 min video...

i'm pretty sure it's on his set from "live @ breakcore gives me wood x"...

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Postby producer_snafu » Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:03 pm

DIGIT216 wrote:Maladroit has a great tune that samples the narration from that 20 min video...

i'm pretty sure it's on his set from "live @ breakcore gives me wood x"...



i thought about sampling that dude but then would require me using the amen break.

in fact i just recalled recently that i did use the amen break for a tribute track to a friend who had passed away.

he would have made fun of me for using it so i threw it in there.

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Postby romantik.berserka » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:05 pm

the amen break is cool cause it got this particular feel of speedness even at not to fast bpm. I don't know why perhaps cause being unquantized and becuase of the cymbal

anyway it's not a easy to use break because obvisouly of the cymbal... if you speed it up to much it end sounding like a chainsaw and if you had too much distorsion it's just mayhem

If you want to use it anyway (mainly perhaps for the melodic snare roll thing) try to layer it with 909, this way it sound pretty beefy and keep it raw and melodic stuff
Also try to search TC AMEN on dogsonacid.com it's probably the most chimical and phatt amen

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Postby Silent Frog » Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:12 pm

Havok wrote:
pimperteen wrote:there's only one thing worse than an amen evangelist; an anti-amen evangelist.


too true!!

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They're like the people who shouted "Judas!" at Dylan when he turned electric, only in reverse. "Sudaj!" they yell!

There's nothing wrong with the Amen. Bit lazy if you only use it without exploring the alternatives but if someone is lazy, it will show up in their music.

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