breakcore has become predictable and boring..discuss!

[helix Profile Website]

sorry to say it but its true...i downloaded 15 new 'breakcore' albums this month off gabber.od.ua(awesome site for free tunes if you didnt know!) every single track was not only shit, there were over 60 tracks and all of them used the amen loop exclusively, with a shitload of distortion over it....come on people it really has been done to death now(im guilty of it myself, but that was like 4 years ago!!)..hoover sound and amen loop= breakcore....no no no, please..i now expect to hear a distorted to fuck amen loop in every track, i generally have a skim through the track and as soon as i hear it i turn it off and prompty delete it! now if it has been mashed up well and used in moderation with 3 or 4 other loops its acceptible! im just bored of hearing that loop poorly chopped and resequenced by so many 15 year old bedroom beginners trying to be cool.

i spend a lot of time looking for good tunes to play out, and in the last 2 months i have found 3 playable tunes...there is the odd gem i have found who will remain my secret as they took me so long to find....

some artists who are still making awesome stuff: krumble, tech diff, wisp, istari lasterfahrer, acrnym, bastardo, flashbulb, gromov, snares,
repeater...ect...
apart from these guys who i check up on regularly for new stuff, i have given up my search and am listening to old school punk again

breakcore is dead!...rant over

[fap* Profile Website]

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it has nothing to do with breakcore...most music is shit these days

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[Feutus Lapdance Profile Website]

Well not much Vynil releases these days (exception for Helfish and Brayn fury). Al I can recomend is that jou download some old stuf from the C8 website (also a awesome site for free tunes) until some good stuf comes allong.

If not, make somme revolutionary new stuf. Thats also wat breakcore is al abouth.

[Stazma Profile]

Hail guys. Everywhere on this forum I read that it's a shame to use the amen break in a track. I just to say that; yes I use an amen break in 90 % of my tracks; but I don't fell like a "bedroom beginners".
I don't think that my music sound original or new but the only important things for me is that my music sound like I want !
I love jungle more than hardcore and for me it's always a pleasure to tweak an old good amen break. I just try to make the music I want to hear and to have a sound that people can say "oh it's a Stazma track ?"

I think you have to do what you want and let the other do waht they want.
If you think it's shit or if you don't like it, just don't listen. I'm agree with you that we have a lot of very young producer who just make the same music every time; and I just don't listen to them but I will continue to do my own music with my amen breaks, my reece bass and my gabber kick just because I like to do it hehehe (and I think that's make a great difference).

[divtech Profile Website]

music is dead 99.999% of its crap, its the way it is with all music, you just gotta look for the gems, and i think this is probably because youve been listening for a while, you get bored of it, makes sense

but hey, the more peple there are out there making crappy tracks, the more likely there will be at least someone in the mix making good stuff

[Stazma Profile]

Oops sorry for the double post ...

[djtheblade Profile Website]

Mark i'll upload some of the tastier stuff i've acquired over the past 12 months and rapidshare it down your ass. Also, i'm emailing you about this compilation we're running, I demand to have your finest work to date good sir!

[pcpc18 Profile]

i agree that breakcore become to be formated, and that sucks, but there's still some producers who still keep moving forward and being inventive, so hail to the best, & fuck the rest

(evrytime someone use the amen break, breakcore dies a little, build you own breaks instead of overusing this break [ wich is nice anyway])

[djtheblade Profile Website]

What I am enjoying is the reversal of complexicity back in to more basic forms. I thinkk Panther tracks helped that a lot, and more recently stuff such as Otto von Shircach, Drop the Lime, Sickboy and Cardopusher are taking it back to basics a little, more dance orientated but with a Breakcore-edge that isn't found anywhere else the electronic world. I was highly critical of this stuff at first, like when I heard Drop the Lime's wobble bass Dubstep stuff I was like jesus, what a fucking step back, but it's slowly growing on me a little more. Likewise even Shitmat is releasing jungle records, Snares releasing acid (which I will never like, ever), Cristoph De Babalon releasing dark breaks and in particular many producers going Dubstep. Maybe this just represents the dominant trendy evolution rather than an individual artist's natural progression, I dunno. What I do know is that i'm quite excited because I still have no fucking clue where we're gonna be in 10 years, hopefully the big names who pushed this music the first time round are still gonna be there, doing weird shit before anyone else, and even if it's less complex i'll still probably be able to appreciate it.

PS New Hellfish is a big let down, aside from the anti-citizen he's not released anything that I consider decent in a while now, and I:gor should reconsider the Darkstep thing (not that he'd ever give a shit about my opinion) because Enduser and Hidden did it years ago and it wasn't particularly that exciting then.
On an unrelated note I wish DJ Scud would come out from whatever rock he's retired under and relaunch Ambush with some ill behaviour.

PS Keep your eye on Tech diff, Michael J Rocks, Terminal 11 and Eustachian. All are lots of fun and are gonna become significant I reckon.

[fap* Profile Website]

Oops sorry for the double post ...

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fix'd

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[thescythian Profile Website]

sorry to say it but its true...i downloaded 15 new 'breakcore' albums this month off gabber.od.ua(awesome site for free tunes if you didnt know!) every single track was not only shit, there were over 60 tracks and all of them used the amen loop exclusively, with a shitload of distortion over it....come on people it really has been done to death now(im guilty of it myself, but that was like 4 years ago!!)..hoover sound and amen loop= breakcore....no no no, please..i now expect to hear a distorted to fuck amen loop in every track, i generally have a skim through the track and as soon as i hear it i turn it off and prompty delete it! now if it has been mashed up well and used in moderation with 3 or 4 other loops its acceptible! im just bored of hearing that loop poorly chopped and resequenced by so many 15 year old bedroom beginners trying to be cool.

i spend a lot of time looking for good tunes to play out, and in the last 2 months i have found 3 playable tunes...there is the odd gem i have found who will remain my secret as they took me so long to find....

some artists who are still making awesome stuff: krumble, tech diff, wisp, istari lasterfahrer, acrnym, bastardo, flashbulb, gromov, snares,
repeater...ect...
apart from these guys who i check up on regularly for new stuff, i have given up my search and am listening to old school punk again

breakcore is dead!...rant over

Not to be a dick, but I've checked out some of your originals and heard lots of amens, gabbers, and ragga samples? Hmmmm...

I personally enjoy your work, honestly, but I am a junglist at heart. However, I have tried including you in mixes, and upon taking a gander at the waveform and trying like hell to mix it, I came to the conclusion it was just terribly mastered.

Pot callin the kettle black is all I'm saying...on that note...for those of us that will always love the amen...

http://www.illphabetik.com/releases.php?release=1390



Also, I would like to add that alot of those artists you pointed out as enjoying are probably more akin to IDM than breakcore. Haven't heard em all though, so could be wrong.

[thescythian Profile Website]

Don't sweat that whole mastering comment. 9 out of 10 producers will have shit quality mastering. Which is of course why the label takes care of it for them.

Any wouldbe producers out there though, hopefully I've made it blatantly obvious to not sweat some jaded old schooler talkin some smack.

The things you can learn from throwing around some amens and gabbers are priceless. As far as editing techniques, work flows, and of course, focusing on making it all sound right.

I would bet a million that the producers helix mentioned here started somewhere, and it was probably in throwing around amens and this and that.

Just have fun...don't sweat this bullshit.

[Feutus Lapdance Profile Website]

PS New Hellfish is a big let down, aside from the anti-citizen he's not released anything that I consider decent in a while now, and I:gor should reconsider the Darkstep thing (not that he'd ever give a shit about my opinion) because Enduser and Hidden did it years ago and it wasn't particularly that exciting then.
On an unrelated note I wish DJ Scud would come out from whatever rock he's retired under and relaunch Ambush with some ill behaviour.

Realy? Did jou mean the Back To The Old Hip Hop Shit E.P. or the The Unsensored E.P.

Did jou Listen to the last Born Ultravoilent?

[S2K08 Profile]

Also, I would like to add that alot of those artists you pointed out as enjoying are probably more akin to IDM than breakcore. Haven't heard em all though, so could be wrong.

Uber wrongage
Krumble and Bastardo are teh bizness

[MrKoekje Profile Website]

amens, gabbers, and ragga samples? Hmmmm...

90% of breakcore itt
Also, I'd like to think that this is why I've been trying to use breaks other than the amen break in my tracks.