Wisp?

[Tekno-Bitchfuker Profile Website]

Anybody heard of and like this geezer?

I think his stuff is amazing, got both of his albums & a couple of live mixes.

Anybody know if he's releasing anything soon?

[Vivisected Profile YIM]

you talkin bout geezer butler?

[birth control Profile]

Sceadugenga is a-okay!

[rtificial Profile]

I picked up some of his stuff off bleep.com before sublight went under and they took em down. I really enjoy him and Gaerth Clarke.

[kvkvg Profile]

wisp is cool, if you like him you should check out the amen orcrastra from russia, hes pretty sexy too

[djtheblade Profile Website]

Yeah I like him, he had a pretty bosting track with some bagpipe samples in it.

[Silent Frog Profile]

You've probably already seen this but most of Wisp's back catalogue has been made freely downloadable by the artist himself: http://wisp.kaen.org/

[Tekno-Bitchfuker Profile Website]

You've probably already seen this but most of Wisp's back catalogue has been made freely downloadable by the artist himself: http://wisp.kaen.org/

No i've not seen that, thanks!

That bagpipe sampled track is called Beadumaegen & the album is called Honor Beats.

Does anyone know why Sublight went down?...I know it did but not the story.

Sorry!

[sintec Profile]

It was losing money; due to piracy and corporations like Amazon and Itunes skimming most of the money from sales. For a more detailed explanation see the link below.

http://www.theflashbulb.net/doc/revolution.htm

It's a sad story heard all too often on the underground. Maybe sooner or later people will wake up and realise piracy is killing some of this scenes best labels.

[Tekno-Bitchfuker Profile Website]

That's such a shame. I always thought they were on of the labels that were doin really well. TBH piracy bugs me. I hardly ever d/l music illegally (i just share the odd files on soulseek) especially underground music.

[Silent Frog Profile]

In my opinion, piracy isn't the source of the problem. For a start, it has always been around. People have copied CDs for their mates since CDs were invented and the same before that with tapes. Also, while piracy may be a problem for commercial artists, underground work is comparatively difficult to source illegally and while it is still possible with some perseverance, most listeners of the scene will frown upon it and show allegiance to the genre.

A few years ago I worked in an independent record shop which has since shut down. While downloads and piracy obviously had an effect on sales, the main problem was internet-based companies such as Amazon and supermarkets like Tescos which buy in bulk and sell at such cut down prices that they sold new releases for 3 pence more than we could buy them in for. While this does not directly affect underground artists, I feel the loss of independent music shops greatly narrows the diversity of music available to the masses. Without shops which don't just play to the mainstream, music buyers (especially those who are new to the genre) find it increasingly difficult not only to find new music but also to buy it. This in turn leads to the piracy which people pinpoint as the source of the problem.

[Tekno-Bitchfuker Profile Website]

In my opinion, piracy isn't the source of the problem. For a start, it has always been around. People have copied CDs for their mates since CDs were invented and the same before that with tapes. Also, while piracy may be a problem for commercial artists, underground work is comparatively difficult to source illegally and while it is still possible with some perseverance, most listeners of the scene will frown upon it and show allegiance to the genre.

A few years ago I worked in an independent record shop which has since shut down. While downloads and piracy obviously had an effect on sales, the main problem was internet-based companies such as Amazon and supermarkets like Tescos which buy in bulk and sell at such cut down prices that they sold new releases for 3 pence more than we could buy them in for. While this does not directly affect underground artists, I feel the loss of independent music shops greatly narrows the diversity of music available to the masses. Without shops which don't just play to the mainstream, music buyers (especially those who are new to the genre) find it increasingly difficult not only to find new music but also to buy it. This in turn leads to the piracy which people pinpoint as the source of the problem.

You're right there pal. I never thought of it like that but Amazon and such like are the spawn of the Devil. (i wish i had some thing more intelligent to say on the matter)

I just think it's a damn shame that many shops & labels will/are being destroyed due to these big corporate slugs. Like you say, it's hard enough as it is tryin to find underground music & distribute it to the masses without quality labels droppin off the map all the time.

Looks like Sublight will become collectors items. And i so wanted a hoodie.

[sintec Profile]

In my opinion, piracy isn't the source of the problem. For a start, it has always been around. People have copied CDs for their mates since CDs were invented and the same before that with tapes. Also, while piracy may be a problem for commercial artists, underground work is comparatively difficult to source illegally and while it is still possible with some perseverance, most listeners of the scene will frown upon it and show allegiance to the genre.

I wish I could agree but I know too many people who don't share your views and have huge collections of illegal mp3s. I have spent many an hour arguing bout this with them but to no avail they still d/l anything and everything they can find, fucking leeches.

As to underground music being difficult to source I'm afraid I have to disagree totally. A friend of mine EVA3 has just released his first album on Fich-art (Asche's label) it turned up on mp3db the other day (it's been out for maybe a couple of months). Underground music is just as easy to find and download for the determined leech as anything else. Just go on soulseek or mp3db, you'll find loads of breakcore / black metal / power noise e.t.c.

I agree that the loss of indie record shops really excacerbates the situation. The the only indie record shop left in my home town charges £7-£8 a 12" which is hardly going to encourage people to buy stuff. I'm sure this is what they need to charge to cover costs but at the same time it's going to drive people to d/l's. To try and rectify the situation here in Norwich I have been running a small record stall at gigs in the city. I don't make any money out of it but then that's not why I started doing it, I can pay my bills in other ways. There are also loads of good mail orders which people could use (I don't mean Amazon here). So the records are available to buy to those that want to spend their money.

Only use for a d/l is to give a record a listen b4 you buy. If you don't like it delete the files, if you do then open your wallet.

[gameeatboy Profile]

i fucking love WISP...Nrthndr is one of my favourite albums...if u like him try The Flashbulb

[Silent Frog Profile]

The Flashbulb is the shit! I love "Red Extensions Of Me", great mix of chilled, glitched up piano pieces and Amen breaks with Daft Punk-esque synths. Got a load of Wisp last night when I needed something chilled to listen to while I worked. His remixes of Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works II are pretty cool, especially as the original is one of my favourite ever albums.