Hi, and Help Please?

[Bsmovies Profile]

hi, ive been into listening breakcore for a while, and lurking this site and forums for a bit. But now i want to get into making it, ive read all i can find, and ive listened to alot of breakcore so i understand the structure of it. but i need pointers, and preferably guides on how to actually make it, as im in the dark there. whatever i try sounds like a clean (lame) drum loop that a 11 year old could make.

Im taking A levels in music production and performance, so i have Cubase sx3, Alberton Live 6 and Fruity Loops 7. out of them, im most proficient in cubase

[djtheblade Profile Website]

High bpms, very high bpms.

[Bsmovies Profile]

i know that , as said, i listen to it alot and understand the structure. i just need total help in making it.

[weyheyhey !! Profile Website]

dont use drum loops, as it will just sound samey. split the break into individual hits and rearrange those into something new.

this is easy to do in a tracker, i've never used cubase or live or anything so you figure that bit out

[Fez Profile Website]

Use Cubase!
Fucking awesome for break-core!

[djtheblade Profile Website]

The slicer in Fruity Loops, shove a drum break in to your FL samples folder, then inside the program, find the loop and right click on it and select "send/open to splicer". Then you can start meddling with the structure.

[avisupchurch Profile]

hi, ive been into listening breakcore for a while, and lurking this site and forums for a bit. But now i want to get into making it, ive read all i can find, and ive listened to alot of breakcore so i understand the structure of it. but i need pointers, and preferably guides on how to actually make it, as im in the dark there. whatever i try sounds like a clean (lame) drum loop that a 11 year old could make.

Im taking A levels in music production and performance, so i have Cubase sx3, Alberton Live 6 and Fruity Loops 7. out of them, im most proficient in cubase

If your understanding of structure is good, as you say, and your loops are "too clean" then maybe you need some distortion, most effective and useful types, especially breakcore style are overdrive, bit crushing, and flange.... chop your breaks into individual hits, process them, render to sample and reload... you'll probably need at least 20 unique hits to make a decent track but you could easily end up with 50+... do your sequencing, and then you can polish and add a few isolated effects later. hope this helps with your sound

[vank Profile Website]

experiment with writing breaks and drums, and also sculpting sounds with effects and settings. just keep doing it over and over again.

[Lycan Profile]

experiment with writing breaks and drums, and also sculpting sounds with effects and settings. just keep doing it over and over again.

basically

chain yourself to your work station and lock the door behind you. cancel your plans for the next month. quit your job.

[Bsmovies Profile]

cheers guys, i realised what i was doing wrong.

i didnt have enough drum types in my mixes, as in i only had 5 or 6, when now im putting 15+ and it sounds alot better.

also, good news. i get to use my college's soundsystem to make breakcore. thats a £2000 media pc, 2 midi controllers, pa system, £1000 mixer and triple screen setup . loaded with cubase sx 3 so im well on the way to making alright-ish breakcore

::edit::

heres my first proper try at anything. (it can be streamed)

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/7/22/ ... ore%29.mp3

i know i have alot of work to do, as thats not complete, it needs more filling (effects etc). im happy with the main drumline, which is a (laaammeee) mixed amen beat, with double and quadruple kicks in it, ran at 200bpm. but it shouldnt loop like it does, should it

[weyheyhey !! Profile Website]

also, good news. i get to use my college's soundsystem to make breakcore. thats a £2000 media pc, 2 midi controllers, pa system, £1000 mixer and triple screen setup :). loaded with cubase sx 3 :) so im well on the way to making alright-ish breakcore :)

lucky you :) but you don't need it... vsnares makes his with a £30 tracker !

will listen to your track when I get on a PC with speakers :)

[Bsmovies Profile]

yup. decent setup dosent make a you a good artist

but it helps, haha

[weyheyhey !! Profile Website]

you need to cut that break up and mash it to shit, can't just loop it, that's cheating heh. also the drums are too quiet

have a listen to this:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ayea9r

its a render of a demo i made from someone else on this forum, see if you can get your drums to do some of the stuff in that

[Bsmovies Profile]

i hate that thing i linked, my first peice.

i spent a whole day mashing etc, generally messing. and have improved alot. and kinda discovered my style. it isnt a load and uber fast like speedcore. my style is more dark and trancy, with mashed drums and alot of grinds

when ive done enough of this peice, ill link to show what i mean.

::edit::

my stuff sounds like a mix of this http://ihatebreakcore.com/modules.php?n ... rack&tid=3 with venetian snares (you know, the slower trancy dark sound of some of venetian snares stuff)

[CoreEater Profile]

I started creating my very first breakcore track. Let's see how this works out.