I Hate Breakcore

by **Necryte** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:37 am

I'm trying to get started in breakcore. Give me some suggestions of things that are needed to start please.

I just bought Ableton, and I'm a frequent user of FL Studio. I've heard that stuff about moogs, trackers and cutters, but how did you people learn how to use this stuff? I've talked to Jonathan Larroquette, but he told me that he worked in a music shop and learned by just being around it.

I live in the middle of fucking Egypt, so there is no music shops, or fans of breakcore. I was hoping that someone else in a similar situation has some answers. It'd be greatly appreciated, and sorry if my terminology is shitty.

by **brainslushie** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:15 pm

I live in Iceland, so i can relate.

by **SweetPeaPod** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:16 pm

is it that you need help with Ableton, or were you looking for instrument/plug-in ideas? you already use FL..... what do you make?

by **Necryte** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:57 pm

SweetPeaPod wrote:is it that you need help with Ableton, or were you looking for instrument/plug-in ideas? you already use FL..... what do you make?

I kind of need to figure out Ableton still, but I want to be able to play live, and use MIDI boards or whatever. I'm not even sure what they do, but I think it's essential.

I want to make super fast tempo breakcore, with tons of chopped up samples, snares, and gabber beats, and it's really time consuming to do that manually. This is what I've made with FL Studio though.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Vomit-M ... 8091127385

by **divtech** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:08 pm

the manual part is what gives it soul brotha

by **Necryte** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:15 pm

divtech wrote:the manual part is what gives it soul brotha

Man, I didn't know so many legit artists use this site! What do you use as a producing studio (e.g. Ableton, Cubase, etc.) Divtech?

by **divtech** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:36 pm

mainly ableton, I mess around with fruity loops occasionally because I like the piano roll in it so much but the majoirty of my process is sample based work in ableton, I love how easy it is to drag/drop and mess with individual samples it is and how easy it is to map out midi for live stuff++im just kind of used to the process by now haha

and btw, we only speak in all seriousness

by **Necryte** » Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:03 pm

divtech wrote:mainly ableton

Where'd you learn to use Ableton?

by **divtech** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:04 am

everywhere, i never took a class on it or anything of the sort, i just picked it up one day and started teaching myself. I watched some tutorials on youtube for reference as well as received a good bit of advice from the users of this site (during its prime) but that was about the extent of it. I'm still not super technical with my work, i use effects to distort my samples but i usually have the sounds exported out then dragged back in again before i put them to use (greatly reduces cpu use) Aside from samples, I use a few of the internal instruments, some effects, and ableton's internal mastering components to put everything together, the rest is just composition which comes with a little bit of knowledge of how sounds work but mostly experience.

i think i answered a bit more than the orig question but i hope that clears up some further questions as well

by **Necryte** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:58 am

divtech wrote:everywhere, i never took a class on it or anything of the sort, i just picked it up one day and started teaching myself. I watched some tutorials on youtube for reference as well as received a good bit of advice from the users of this site (during its prime) but that was about the extent of it. I'm still not super technical with my work, i use effects to distort my samples but i usually have the sounds exported out then dragged back in again before i put them to use (greatly reduces cpu use) Aside from samples, I use a few of the internal instruments, some effects, and ableton's internal mastering components to put everything together, the rest is just composition which comes with a little bit of knowledge of how sounds work but mostly experience.

i think i answered a bit more than the orig question but i hope that clears up some further questions as well

Thanks, that actually clears up a lot. That's basically how I learned how to use FL Studio, but Ableton is completely different, and for some reason I have no patience, and a lot of reluctancy, since FL Studio is so natural to work with now, but a lot of people have told me that if I'm serious about producing, I'm going to have to advance to a better program.

by **divtech** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:06 am

dont let em convince you so quickly of that, i feel a lot of people write off fl because of its dare i say 'cartoony' layout, it just doesnt look as professional, and from that, prejudice as to its capabilities follows, however I know of great work that comes off fruity loops, xanopticon for one, and I have never heard/seen a comprehensive review of why ableton is so much mightier than fl when it comes specifically to production potential.

and if anyone can actually answer this i would be interested in their answer and it would probably help a great many people in the decision for what daw to learn

by **Zwaken** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:34 am

divtech wrote:...however I know of great work that comes off fruity loops, xanopticon for one...

As well as some of Wisp's earlier works; an artist who I've been listening to ever since I really started to get into electronic music.

Fruity Loops is a nice program. It's all about what works best for you, not what others use.

by **Feutus Lapdance** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:51 am

Rioteer even usses Reason to make breakcore. I myself use Renoise. Or jou can use al kind of difrent programs. Like making intresting piano loops in Reason and using them in Renoise. Try difrent programs, to find wat jou like best.

But I can see wy jou want to use Abelton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5sMjjOHJcw

by **SweetPeaPod** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:34 am

dude.. ableton has built in lessons.. you should go through them...

by **djtheblade** » Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:52 pm

Techdiff also uses Fruity Loops, as does Faux Pride and a few other really awesome producers. Don't write it off, it's often utilised by sloppy Bedroom producers (ahem) but there's nothing wrong with being user friendly. It's a very powerful piece of software!

I'm largely self taught in it but there's a wealth of free material on the internet, including image-line's own FL tutorials all over youtube.

Welcome, by the way.

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